Former Secretary of State Karen Handel wrote what she calls a
"sponsorship" check to a gay Republican organization called Log Cabin
Republicans. She was running for Fulton County Commission chairman at
Her opponents in the GOP gubernatorial primary accuse her of lying about the check, and changing her position on gay issues. Handel denies it.
Now that she's seeking GOP votes statewide in the
gubernatorial primary, Handel has volunteered little about her position
on gay issues. 11 Alive's Doug Richards questioned Handel July 14 on
board her campaign bus as she traveled from Atlanta to Monroe.
Handel: (The Log Cabin Republican check is) certainly not a
membership. And I don't think going to an event constitutes
membership, nor does it constitute agreeing with everything they have
to say either.
Richards: Why did you do that?
A: Well, when you're out campaigning -- remember, I was
campaigning for Fulton County Commission -- so I think it was important
for me to speak to all the various Republican groups. Let's remember a
lot of Republicans have spoken to the Log Cabin organization, from, I
think (Senator Johnny) Isakson has spoken, Sonny Perdue has spoken. It
was part of going out and trying to run a comprehensive campaign. And
the key, I think, was to make sure that I was doing the outreach with
folks. And it was better to not have folks be adversarial against me,
and so that was the whole point of it.
Q: You said there were issues where you may have agreed and disagreed on. What were the issues you agreed with them on?
A: From taxes and cutting the spending at Fulton County and
candidly, the organization was a good ally on those types of fiscal
Q: You have said that you are -- you're against gay marriage, right?
A: Mm hm. Absolutely. Marriage is between one man and one
woman. And I've been very very clear about that. And the record is
clear about any of the other issues like domestic partner benefits or
anything like that. In fact in Fulton, I voted no on domestic partner
Q: Are you against civil unions for gays?
A: Yes. I think that's not an issue that has come forward in
Georgia. We have the constitutional amendment against gay marriage,
and I don't want to see any taxpayer funding going toward benefits
etcetera for a couple that is not married. In our state and for me,
marriage is for one man and one woman.
Q: Why is that?
A: Why is marriage between one man and one woman? (Laughs). Are you serious?
Q: Yes. Well why -- do you view committed gay relationships as being less legitimate than committed heterosexual relationships?
A: As a Christian, I view relationships and marriage as being between a man and a woman.
Q: But what about the legitimacy of the relationship? Do you have any gay friends? Do you know gay couples?
A: Of course I do. Are we going to spend our whole day talking on this issue?
Q: I want to know how you feel about this.
A: I've been very clear. And you know, as a Christian,
marriage is between a man and a woman. I do not think that gay
relationships are -- they are not what God intended. And that's just
my viewpoint on it. Others might disagree with that. But I would also
hope that if you look at what is happening in our state, we've got
issues we need to be focused on in Georgia. We have a constitutional
amendment against gay marriage. And it's something that I supported
wholeheartedly. We have that, and let's get dealing with the other
issues that we also need to deal with in Georgia. And the press can
help with that. (Laughs).
Q: Frequently, folks in the legislature kind of threaten to --
there are always rumblings in the legislature that they may outlaw gay
adoptions. You're against gay adoption.
A: I am against gay adoption. But remember -- I mean, if there
is legislation on that, certainly I will follow that and look at it.
But in the end, ultimately courts are going to be the ones to have to
make the decision on that and it's always in the best interests of the
child. Do I think that gay parents is in the best interest of the
child? No. But we do have our court system that deals with many and
most of those issues.
Q: Would you favor outlawing gay adoptions?
A: Yeah, I would consider that, absolutely.
Q: Do you know any gay couples with children?
A: Not that I'm aware of.
Q: So you think gay couples are less qualified to function as parents than straight couples?
A: I think that for a child to be in a household -- in a family
in a household with a situation where the parents are not married, as
in one man and one woman, is not the best household for a child.
Q: Is it better or worse than a single parent household?
A: Doug, I'm really trying to be straightforward with you but
I'm not going to debate all the nuances. I've made it abundantly clear
that I think that marriage is between a man and a woman. And that's
what I believe, and I don't know what more you would like me to add to
Q: I guess I want to know why you think gay parents aren't as legitimate as heterosexual parents.
A: Because I don't.
Q: (Pause) Well, I realize that.
A: Well, Doug, we're not going to spend the whole day
discussing this issue. And you know, it 's really kind of
disappointing -- we invited you on this (leg of the bus trip).
Q: I know.
A: So we're going to need to move on.